Fuel pump/line issue

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[McFly]

Hi all, I was out on an extended drive today and on the way back the engine lost power and died and we couldn't get it started. When I looked under the Kombi there was fuel pouring out. I followed the leak and found a fuel pipe going into what I think is the fuel pump that had come loose. I put it back in and all seemed fine, she started up and ran good. Got about 2kms down the road when it happened again, so plugged back in. The third time it happened I pulled a spring off a christmas decoration I had in the glovebox and put that around the pipe and pump and it hasn't come out since.

I'll put a few photos of it below:

A few questions:
1. Should it look like this? (minus the wire of course) it looks as though it should be in further but couldn't for the life of me get it in any more.

2. Is it okay to drive like this till my mechanic gets back from holidays in mid-Jan?

3. What should I do about it? It's fine now as it is but I'm not very comfortable leaving what is supposed to be a temporary fix like this..


Appreciate it guys

NOTE: the fuel line stays on the pipe, but the pipe was what kept coming out


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Oh, and as I was putting the spring in to hold it a cyclist came up to us and offered his phone and was pretty friendly. We'd thanked him and he was well up the road by the time I got the spring on. As we passed him I honked to say thanks again but he got so shocked that he almost fell off his bike the poor bugger 

[vdubyah73]

Do a search on Bus fires! You have to at least loosen the clamp and slide it on further. Should probably replace some fuel lines while your at it.

Bill

[Busaholic]

NOTE: the fuel line stays on the pipe, but the pipe was what kept coming out

Is the pipe threaded on the end, or is is smooth.  I would pull the pipe out and try to look in the fuel pump and see if the pipe broke off inside the pump.  Use a mirror and flashlight if needed.  If you see threads inside the pump then I'd just replace the pump. 

For a temp fix, you could try using some JB Weld, since it is fuel resistent.  Obviously, make sure that there is no leaks. 

Fuel pumps for non FI is only $50 or so.  Probably worth it unless yours is relatively new.  (it looks pretty clean)

On the second picture, the pipe almost looks slightly bent or crimped.  That would prevent it from going in anymore.

Good luck and be safe!

[vdubyah73]

NOTE: the fuel line stays on the pipe, but the pipe was what kept coming out

Didn't even see that part.
Take the tube off the bus and rough up the surface try rolling the tube with a coarse file on it and heavy pressure. Roll it not file it, you are trying to knurl it. then clean and epoxy it the knurl will make it a tight fit. If you are unsuccessful with knurling at least rough the surface up to give the epoxy some tooth to hold on to.

Bill

 

[Dj:Eep]

What they said.  DON'T drive like that.  Fix it now.  You don't need a mechanic for that.  Even if you need to buy a new pump.

[Wizzard]

I had a hell of a fire in the middle of a busy intersection a few years ago on a hot August day in my old Cal Custom Bug simply because that pipe popped out and spewed gas all over a hot engine .
Replace it immediately . A new fuel pump is a hell of a lot cheaper than rebuilding a burnt bus .

[McFly]

Looks like I'll be needing a new pump, will be calling around in the next few days for one

[olylawnboy]

McFly, I think you figured out you need a fuel pump! But you need new fuel lines too...big time!

[good ship lollipop]

your fuel pump is so much cleaner than everything around it.  do you know the last time it was replaced?   i mean its pumping fuel and everything, maybe just try to secure that pipe to the pump and motor on.  take the money and invest it in new fuel lines. The last thing anyone here wants to see is one of our
friends buses catching on fire. 

here's vduyah73's sobering fire prevention thread if you didn't have a chance to check it out. 
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=266181