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« on: February 07, 2008, 12:49:34 PM »

I’ve decided to buy my first bus, but I need to know what to look for when it comes to problems with the bus. What question I should be ask about the bus to find one that in good condition. If you guys can help me out I would really appreciate it, thanks. 
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2008, 01:18:15 PM »

hi Ashler and Welcome to the site!  Im a newbie too, and i made a huge mistake recently when i bought my first bus and over-looked the condition of the frame. The bus i bought was nice and pretty, drove well, interior immaculate, but the frame was shot balls.  I thought it might be fixable at first, but my lack of experience proved me wrong.  It was a very structural part of the frame, the torsion bar housing, so its now sitting in my driveway mostly stripped and awaiting its arrival to the junkyard.  If your new to maintaining automobiles as well, id suggest going out and getting John Muir's Idiot guide on VW's. He has a chapter in there that is all about what to look for when buying a bus.               

Im sure you'll get a lot of good advice from the other members, but i recommend sticking around and getting "permission" from the nice folks here before making a purchase.

i should have but i was all like, no time , must buy bus before its gone  Grin  doe!   Feel out the person your buying it from as well.  If something doesn't add up take your money elsewhere.  For example the guy i bought it from said he bought the bus for himself but needed to sell it cause he was losing his job.  When i met him , i asked what he did for work, and he said he worked at UPS.  Mind you this was in late October or early November.  Mail services don't normally let people go right before the holidays.  Typically They hire on a few hundred extra employees instead.  What The PO meant to say was i bought this bus and realized its a crapshoot, and now im selling it to the first idiot that comes my way.

awesomeness and good luck.  Remember the hunt is half the fun!

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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 01:55:45 PM »

Welcome! I agree the hunt is part of the fun! I also second that on the book, full of great info! Good Luck!  39
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 01:57:42 PM »

thank you for the advice good ship lollipop and sisterearth . I'll most deftly go get a cope of the idiot book.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 07:03:09 PM »

First you have to think about year.  I'm assuming your looking at a '68-'79, the baywindow.  There are three major engine differences and a few other differences between those years.  The '68- '71 buses have a single carb "type 1", aka "upright" or "beetle" engine.  The '72-'74 buses have a duel carb "type 4", aka "pancake" engine.  The '75-'79 buses have fuel injected type 4 engines.

The 68-71's are easy to work on, reliable and parts are cheap.  The 72-79's are faster and stronger, but the engine's in them have often seen better days.  The type 4 engine is a great engine, but they have often have lots of miles on them, and parts are more expensive.  Still, they have more power and are quite reliable if you get one in good shape.

Also, until 1971, buses had non-assisted 4 wheel drum brakes.  Takes a good bit of muscle in the leg to stop 'em, but they work fine if you got it.  '71 and on have power assisted front disc brakes and stop with minimal pedal pressure.

Check the body and frame.  Depending on where you live, the condition of the underside and resulting impact on the price will vary.  If you are in the West, find one that is almost rust free.  You may have to settle for some rust on Mid-West and Eastern buses.  But not too much.  And look carefully, especially if there is new paint.  Look for bubbles and cracks around the windows and bottoms edges of doors and body.

You can usually ignore the odometer, who knows how many times it's rolled over or has been changed or if it's just plain broken.  Sometimes people will roll it back to zero when they rebuild an engine.

Buy it in person if at all possible.

Bring any questions specific to a bus you're interested in to us.
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