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Offline puregravy

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A little lift?
« on: April 07, 2008, 08:24:33 PM »
Fastmac25! Your lift kit rules! I was dreaming and schemeing until I saw "If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't!"

I would love a little more clearance though. My 79 Westy has travelled many a mile with many a good load and as a result its rear end has sagged over the years. I have high end KNC's? shocks and they help with the ride but...I am a low rider that doesn't want to be one.

My wife and I are heading on a dreamy multi month, many thousand mile road trip  :041: that will have some rough roads where clearance will be imperative. (:028:)

A friend once said the torsion bar? rear end of VW can sag over time and he had heard of being able to take the torsion bar out? moving the arm up a notch? I haven't gone to the length of taking it apart, nor do any of the books I have go into this kind of detail. Would doing this (if it's possible) change the angle on the CV joints too much and make them blow out faster?

Thought I'd throw this idea out in lovemybus land and see what others know about maintaining/improving clearance. Any resources? Does the Bentley Manual go into this kind of detail?

Thanks all.

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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2008, 06:48:32 AM »
   welcome   puregravy


I'd use "rear" coilover beetle shocks on the front of your bus and find some airshocks for the rear.........

The coilover shocks work well on the front.  They will lift an inch or so over stock ride and ride fine....

The rear airshocks will allow you to raise the rear about 2"-3" while making the bus more stabile on the road.....and adjustable......

It's all bolt on and if you don't like it it's easily reversible..........

As far as tires you can run 27" max 14" all terrain tires on the front and i would do the same on the rear.

This would be the cheapest way to safely raise your bus........ thumb1
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2008, 07:06:41 AM »
Fastmac25! Your lift kit rules! I was dreaming and schemeing until I saw "If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't!"


It is labor intensive...... i had to engineer all of the liftkit from scratch...(Nobody makes this stuff for a bus)..... I ran into numerous problems that i had to overcome through research and "trial and error"......... and not cost feasible...... for a lift like mine.......  :eek:

I mainly did this lift for the tire clearance..... due to the fact i needed large diameter tires to help with my gearing....so my V6 wasn't working itself to death at 4000 rpms....... so i went ahead and made it in the rugged offroad scheme..... thumb1

I like the fact that it's different and draws attention but if i had to do it again i'd probably not and stick to lifting bugs...........and having more normal (Yeah Right) busses....... lol
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2008, 03:43:53 PM »
Puregravy, your bus just needs the spring plates adjusted. It is a labor intensive and slightly difficult job, from what I have read, but if you want the information I can find it for you.
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2008, 03:48:44 PM »
 welcome puregravy  ;D
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2008, 04:11:10 PM »
Thanks for the welcome(s) and thoughts.

Looks like the easy fix is air shocks and coil springs. That being said the plate adjustment might be in Elwood's best interest, given time and ability. Love to find out how, I will have some time and this might be one of the pre-trip projects (along with a rebuild).

Gosta, if you know the resource to look at even, it would be great.  thumb6

Back to work. Final of all finals coming up!

PS had a look at Wilouby's blog. Great idea. Fun.
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2008, 05:02:08 PM »
Here's some fun reading.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=255007&highlight=sagging
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=246432&highlight=
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=165532&highlight=sagging
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53789&highlight=sagging

Final of all finals coming up!

PS had a look at Wilouby's blog. Great idea. Fun.

Thanks, haven't posted on it for a looonnnnggg time. We have had many more adventures but with school and work I haven't felt much like retyping the stories.

So, what school do you go to? Please, don't mention finals again I am nowhere near prepared for them yet :eusa_wall:
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2008, 05:58:08 PM »
Most excellent sites with a perfect amount of detail.  thumb7

This site rules. Thanks.

I am at UVic out of Victoria BC (for 3 more days and then convocation in June :bangyourhead: )

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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2008, 06:18:29 PM »
Wife and I camped out near Tofino for a week and stayed in Victoria for a night at a hotel with a strip club in it...very strange place.  :102:
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2008, 06:37:53 PM »
Cool,  I spent a couple of days in Victoria BC. and loved it.... :007:... I keep trying to get my wife to go there with me sometime for some type of vacation ........ :102:   I went without her..... on the job...  thumb1
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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2008, 07:13:56 PM »
Tofino good, hotel bad.

Lesson learned: don't stay in hotel with billboard advertising 'Tricksey' 1 night only: especailly with Harley's parked underneath billboard. It's too intimidating: A motorbike with more horsepower than your van.

 :Doh:

Not good.

Next time try getting the government rate at the Empress. (You're there on business) Score BIG points with your true love.

Cheers and thanks once again. I will be back.

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Re: A little lift?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2008, 03:31:43 AM »
The air shock ride will be a big disappointment, reindex the torsion bars to lift your saggy ass but. Air shocks have a minimum air pressure they have to be kept at. I had them on a Mercury Grand Marquis, minimum pressure was 25 psi. Made MY tits bounce to much. Big ole Grand Marquis sure did handle different with LT tires and those heavy duty shocks!
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